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Tiempos dificiles para Catalyst Game Labs

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Bueno, pues parece que otra vez andamos de malversaciones de fondos en la industria rolera; esta vez le ha tocado el turno a Catalyst Game Labs, que en la actualidad publica Shadowrun, Battletech, Cthulhutech y Eclipse Phase, entre (creo) otros.

OK, as you may well have been able to surmise from release schedules, Catalyst Game Labs is in a bit of a financial pickle, and it is somewhat unlikely that they will retain the license to make Shadowrun products. This is not because Shadowrun hasn't been selling enough to cover expenses, but merely because a significant quantity of money is missing outright. Reliable sources put this figure at roughly $850,000. Which sounds like a lot, and it is. It is roughly 40% of Catalyst's entire sales for last year, missing over a three year period. There will of course be lawsuits, and there are already people drawing up legal documents accusing Loren Coleman of having hired people to construct an extension on his house through the company as "freelance writers" and somehow reporting an estimated $100,000 of convention sales as $6,000. Whether that is actually true or not is - of course - a matter for the courts to decide. And decide they presumably will.

But what that means for Catalyst as a company is pretty bad. It costs several dollars to print a book even when the pdfs are finished and ready for publication. A print run of say, 50,000 books (like the print run of Runner Havens) would cost somewhere between $150,000 and $250,000 to print and ship to distributors. And while it eventually sold to distributors at ~$15 a book (a total take home of $750,000), it did so over a period of three years, during which time they were paying interest on loans and paying for storage, and advertisement and so on and so forth. A book like that isn't actually taking home half a million in profits. Which is a bad thing, because it means that even if there was a complete book printed and ready to sell, even a total and rapid sell through would not pull the company out of the financial hole it is in - and the shortfall means that it does not have the cash on hand to start the ball rolling with a new major printing.

The tiny amount of drachmas that are left in the coffers are being used to print up tiny print runs of books that have sold through - another 3,000 books of Runner's Companion for example (~$15,000 to start up, maybe $30-40k towards paying creditors if it sells out). There simply is not the startup cash to bring upcoming books like the SR4 sixth world almanac or corporate guide forward. The writing is there, but the printing costs are not. Beyond that, the freelancers have not been paid, and some of them are withholding copyright until they are - meaning that even a tiny print run of these new materials is simply not possible.

Many SR writers are quitting, have already quit, or have handed in notices contingent on demands which - word on the street - will not be met. And CGL does not even own Shadowrun, it leases the intellectual property from Topps. It seems unlikely that they will be able to make their licensing payment when the contract comes up for renewal - in a couple of months. At that time, CGL will cease being able to print Shadowrun or Battletech materials (they would presumably keep the license to Cthulhutech and Eclipse Phase for at least a little while longer, because those are separate contracts).

So what does this mean for the future of Shadowrun? It probably means that someone else will create a company and start making Shadowrun again. After all, freelancers work for very little, and a well selling book can bring in tens of thousands of dollars in profits. $850,000 of embezzlement is seemingly enough to sink the company (whoever ended up with the credsticks), but I must point out that there was indeed eight hundred and fifty thousand dollars to steal, so Shadowrun is not - as a concept - insoluble. And I also point out that something similar happened to Shadowrun before. Indeed, twice before, as both FanPro and FASA before it collapsed under the weight of people not paying debts and having bags with dollar bill signs vanish mysteriously in the middle of the night. It's somewhat... poetic considering the subject matter of the game itself.

It is entirely probable indeed that when a new company comes to take the licence, many familiar faces will appear in the new company as if they had never left. Certainly back when FanPro collapsed back when I was working for the company, I simply started working for the new company as if nothing had changed. This happened back when FASA collapsed as well - those members of the team that were not extracted by Microsoft simply started turning in writing assignments to the new boss.

And yeah, I regularly go on shadowruns against Catalyst to find out what new releases are in store. Don't you?

-Frank


¿Qué significa todo esto? Pues que hay bastantes probabilidades de que pierdan las licencias de publicación de Shadowrun y de Battletech, que son las gordas, y que es también bastante posible que se vean obligados a separar rumbos con Cthulhutech y Eclipse Phase. Si ya parecía estar complicada la cosa del Cthulutech por estos lares, parece que se complica un poquito más :roll:
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Re: Tiempos dificiles para Catalyst Game Labs

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Oh, la nota de prensa de su página oficial:

http://catalystgamelabs.com/

For Immediate Release

Catalyst Game Labs recently completed a detailed financial review of the company. We learned that over the past several years the company has achieved dramatic growth in terms of demand, increased total revenues and strong sales with an increasing market share in the gaming industry, despite a lackluster economy. We are thrilled by that news and are eager to move forward with our upcoming original game Leviathans, along with our other new casual games. We also remain committed to plans for our beloved licensed games: Shadowrun, BattleTech, Eclipse Phase, and CthuluTech.

While we wish the review had only uncovered positive news, we also discovered our accounting procedures had not been updated as the company continued to grow. The result was that business funds had been co-mingled with the personal funds of one of the owners. We believe the missing funds were the result of bad habits that began alongside the creation of the company, which was initially a small hobby group. Upon further investigation, in which the owner has willingly participated, the owner in question now owes the company a significant balance and is working to help rectify the situation.

The current group of owners was presented with this information on Monday. Administrative organization for the company is under review, and accounting procedures have been restructured, to correct the situation and provide more stringent oversight. We feel the management team at Catalyst did the responsible thing by seeking this financial review and we will continue to restructure as needed. We are in discussions with our partners and freelancers to remedy any back payments that may also be due as a result of this review.

We are embarrassed that this situation did occur but we hope our eagerness to make these changes, along with our reputation for making great games, will encourage you to stand by us. We understand that for a few employees the news was too stressful and we wish them all the best in their new endeavors. However, the majority of the team remains and will continue to bring great entertainment to you all. We appreciate the support our friends, freelancers, and fans have provided us in the past and look forward to a successful future.
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Re: Tiempos dificiles para Catalyst Game Labs

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Pues vaya, no creo yo entonces que vayamos a tener finalmente Cthulhutech en la lengua de Cervantes. O por lo menos se complica el tema.

:(

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Yo no haria mucho caso del mensaje de Frank Trollman que es un ex-currante del Shadowrun que acabo escopeteado :roll:

Aun asi la verdad es que las cosas les pintan mal a los de Catalyst, pero fueno, si Palladium pudo afrontar hace cuatro años un desfalco de 1.200.000 $ esperanzas nos quedan. Pero aun poniendonos en lo peor Shadowrun y Battletech son licencias (con lo que no necesariamente se perderian, aunque la calidad que les ha dado Catalyst igual cuesta de ver), mientras que Cthulhutech, Paparazzi y Eclipse Phase son propiedad de otras empresas (Framewerk y Posthuman Studios, los dos ultimos, concretamente), asi que solo tendrian que buscar otra editorial para sus productos.

Pero desde luego sea como sea es una pena que estas cosas aun pasen (bueno... realmente son periodicas en el mundillo editorial yanki, en el español como no roben las grapadoras :roll: ), y mas con editoriales que valen la pena como esta. A ver si hago un pedidillo mas este mes (ufffs...) y al menos los apoyo un poco.
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Re: Tiempos dificiles para Catalyst Game Labs

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Pues mira si yo tenia ganas de pillar todo lo de Shadowrun 4, esto me ha animado definitivamente a hacerlo. Tengo solo el basico de aniversario y el runner companion, pero en cuanto pase el mes y pague algunos gastos importantes que tengo a primeros de abril hago un pedido con todo lo que me falta.
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Bueno he hecho un pequeño analisis (pescando comentarios e informacion por la frikisfera :lol: ), junto a otra noticia y las he puesto en dos malas noticias para el rol :cry:
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artemis2 escribió:...mientras que Cthulhutech, Paparazzi y Eclipse Phase son propiedad de otras empresas (Framewerk y Posthuman Studios, los dos ultimos, concretamente), asi que solo tendrian que buscar otra editorial para sus productos.

Framewerk es el sistema de juego del Cthulhutech :P.
La compañía diseñadora del Cthulhutech se llama Wildfire, la del Paparazzi, la verdad es que no lo se ^^.
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Esto es lo que dicen de momento en el foro de Wildfire:

Hey guys ?

So there have been some accusatory things spread out on the internet today regarding Catalyst Game Labs. There is little I can tell you about it, but here's what I can.

Yes, there are some things going on with Catalyst Game Labs right now. However, I'd like to focus on how this relates to WildFire and CthulhuTech, instead of the rumors that are circulating.

We terminated our contract with Catalyst Game Labs right after the beginning of the year, primarily due to non-payment of royalties. Since that time, we have been negotiating a provisional contract with Catalyst to keep CthulhuTech under their banner while getting all payments caught up. During that time, we have also been looking at other homes for CthulhuTech and there are several possibilities. Thank you for helping us create a brand that publishers want!

Whatever happens with Catalyst Game Labs, as well as the Shadowrun and Battletech licenses, will not ultimately affect CthulhuTech. WildFire will continue on under Catalyst or under a new publisher and the books will once again flow. We have Ancient Enemies and the Reference Screen ready to print, and Unveiled Threats is a stone's throw away from print-ready. One way or the other, we'll have these products, as well as much needed reprints, back on shelves this year ? hopefully during the summer. We are looking forward to once again being able to release products on a release schedule!

As far as this thread goes, I would request that you do not rumormonger here. There are threads elsewhere on the internet for that. Smile Legally, we are not allowed to comment on anything regarding Catalyst Game Labs, other than what I've said here. If you want information on Catalyst, I would suggest going directly to their company forums to get the word from the horse's mouth.

Thank you again for supporting us and keeping us afloat, and thank you for your concern ? it really does mean a lot to us.

I will keep you updated as plans unfold and I am able!


Y esto lo que dicen en el foro de Posthuman:

I am waiting to see what Catalyst has to say before I make a public post. In the meantime, it's fair to note that the Operations Manager, Accountant/Office Manager, and Adam Jury (layout ninja) have all resigned. Catalyst didn't actually employ me, so I can't resign, but I will no longer be freelancing for them.

Posthuman Studios is committed to continuing Eclipse Phase, though exactly how that will play out we can't say just yet. I also can't say just yet how this will affect the release schedule. We're working on it. As quoted on our twitter feed, publishers are like morphs, you can always resleeve if necessary.


Like Rob said, we'll maintain, however the chips fall.

Also please note that Trollman's post... well, you oughta see an inappropriate amount of gleefulness in it if you read between the lines. Two well beloved game franchises are at stake (and I don't mean ours), so I'm not sure what's up with the chum-in-the-shark-tank tone. If it's proven true, it's awful. In the mean time, he & everyone else need to relax.

Future of Eclipse Phase? I'm still knocking out verbiage for a book that was slated to come out two books after Sunward, and I'll be damned if it doesn't see the light of day. I also know I'm not the only one on the core crew of writers who feels that way.

Take that for what it's worth.
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Si, si, es que si unes mi mala memoria para los nombres con la cantidad que manejo ultimamente... :oops: En fin, metida de pata tipica :roll:

Lo de Posthuman lo habia leido, lo de Wildfire no, asias :p
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Cada vez estoy más convencida que el CthulhuTech está maldito U_U
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Bueno, pues parece que Wildfire y Posthuman dicen adios a Catalyst:

Catalyst Game Labs is currently engaged in negotiations to end its agreements with WildFire and Posthuman Studios. Once the terms are finalized, Catalyst will no longer publish CthulhuTech or Poo: The Card Game for WildFire, nor will they co develop and publish Eclipse Phase for Posthuman Studios.

?It?s been fantastic to be involved with growing CthulhuTech alongside WildFire, while also launching Posthuman Studios? Eclipse Phase,? said Randall Bills, Managing Developer. ?We love both of these universes and want to seem them grow and flourish. However, in our current situation we need to re-focus on our core brands of BattleTech and Shadowrun, while developing our original games. As such, while we are parting ways with both companies, we?ll be doing everything we can to support WildFire and Posthuman Studios as they assume the full mantle for their game lines.?

Future details surrounding CthulhuTech will be found at www.cthulhutech.com, while future Eclipse Phase details will be found at www.eclipsephase.com.
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Vaya, supongo que eso significa que ambas lineas van a retrasarse mas aun :(
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artemis2 escribió:Vaya, supongo que eso significa que ambas lineas van a retrasarse mas aun :(

Es de suponer, por desgracia, aunque desde Posthuman ya han afirmado que se van a seguir vendiendo sus pdfs sin problemas y que en cuanto esté Sunward saldrá a la venta en pdf, así que no me preocupa tanto, la verdad. Y los dos últimos libros de Cthulhutech me han decepcionado bastante, a decir verdad, así que...
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Re: Tiempos dificiles para Catalyst Game Labs

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En algún sitio del foro de Eclipse Phase leí, tras que se conocieran los problemas de Catalyst, que la intención era tener lista la reimpresión del juego para antes de las Origins, que son a finales de junio. He intentado encontrar de nuevo esa información pero no lo he logrado, así que quizá editaran tan optimista información o quizá lo leí mal.

Lo que sí está claro es que la cosa se retrasará. Así que me tocará esperar para comprarme el manual.
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Plunder escribió:Lo que sí está claro es que la cosa se retrasará. Así que me tocará esperar para comprarme el manual.

Si es por eso, la primera impresión del básico aún está en distribuidores, así que aún la puedes comprar de la forma habitual. Lo que no puede hacer ya Catalyst es vender más, y Posthuman tardará un poco en tener otra tirada.
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